hulugu
Nov 7, 02:06 AM
Fair thought - but aren't Apple a Global company with a global product? I would have thought anything local wouldn't impact on a worldwide strategy...but then again...
Apple is primarily an American company and they know that the news cycle will be heavy with Election Results. They can wait until next week and get more bang for the same buck. Europe (Australia, Asia, etc. ) will be just as happy with a Nov. 14 release as Nov. 7.
Apple is primarily an American company and they know that the news cycle will be heavy with Election Results. They can wait until next week and get more bang for the same buck. Europe (Australia, Asia, etc. ) will be just as happy with a Nov. 14 release as Nov. 7.
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MacCoaster
Oct 13, 11:17 PM
Well, I like to listen to music on an MP3 player. Windows does not natively support MP3. I don't like product activation, as it means I have to call and reactivate when I change a bunch of hardware, which I'm likely to do enough for it to be a problem. I don't like paying for an OS with an insecure foundation. I don't like paying for an OS which with IE 'removed' still manages to pop up ads in ... IE. I don't like a dos cli, which has some UNIX commands, but ususally requires DOS commands.
Uh. Windows does have the support. I can play MP3s in Windows Media Player. I can write programs using the API to play MP3s, WMA, ASF, whatever. Maybe you mean to encode? Sure, Microsoft didn't want to pay Fraunhofer for the license, since they have their own audio format that works just fine.
Product activation. Just sends info on computer--no personal info. One click. No big deal. Microsoft is just protecting its profits losses. I've had my Athlon for a year, changed a lot, XP still runs fine and hasn't bitched.
Windows is just as insecure as any desktop OS. I've seen many OS X security updates. Desktop OSes are worst for security if you don't know how to fully utilize the OS security components (i.e. NT Security Model, UNIX security model).
If you want UNIX in Windows. Get cygwin.
.net is an entirely closed initiative. JScript is JavaScript crippled for IE only. C# is (from what I've heard) bad C++. I have tried to avoid .net for many reasons. I enjoy open standards. I like learning languages which are more likely to succeed in the broadest audience. I hate the whole .dll structure. COM/ASP services I have built in the past refused to scale well.
Outside of that, I see nothing wrong with .net, and some people will surely code for it, as long as its around.
Very wrong. Microsoft has a shared-source (other name for open source) .NET VM, compiler, etc. for BSD called ROTOR. It's just as good as the commercial counterpart for Windows, which is free. Hell, ROTOR works on Windows if you want to have ROTOR on Windows. Besides, Mono is GPL'ed open source implementation of Microsoft.NET.
JScript is not only for IE. It's used in scripting. JScript.NET isn't for IE anyways. It's a scripting language that can be compiled into .NET MSIL CLR.
C# is a ECMA standard. Java isn't. It isn't bad C++. It isn't even C++. It's Microsoft's version of SUN's Java with quite some differences from Java. C# isn't Java per se, but very similar. C# is actually a very elegant language. It just works.
Microsoft also encourages standards with XML Web Services. It's an open standard. There's a XML Web Service implementation for Java by SUN. It will play friendly with Microsoft.NET.
COM/ASP scalability is just as bad as PHP scalability. Microsoft.NET solves this with ASP.NET which is far much more powerful and scalable.
No what I'm saying is that Apple is a company that invest heavily in its industrial design, its UI development, etc. which gives it a high degree of style.
No arguments there. Then again, Microsoft has too, especially with Microsoft.NET.
The hardware of Apple's line, love it or hate it, is highly stylized. The OS has a lot more visual appeal, and more thoughful and intuitive layout. It's bloody UNIX my Granny sends me email from. Windows is available as delivered in Marshmellow or 98 Mode. It just looks bad...
Opinionated. I don't care if its bloody UNIX your granny sends emails from, she still doesn't know and therefore doesn't take full advantage of UNIX. Marshmellow? 98 Mode? Microsoft has dumped 9x and moved on with NT/2k/XP.
The ease of use argument is primarily focused opn productivity.
In Windows, when you empty the trash, an alert/confirmation box appears. You can then change focus to another window, burying the alert box, and freezing the OS, so you have to drill down through all the windows you have open to answer this alert before continuing.
Why not simply respond to the request of action immediately then move on. Since when would it freeze the OS? Never happened to me. You don't have to answer to continue. Windows NT/2k/XP uses protected memory, just like Mac OS X. In fact, Windows had it long before Mac OS X even came out the public.
Little annoying counter-intuitive time wasters abound.
Well... I haven't come across anything counter-intuitive or time wasting in XP. It's all opinonated.
I have both, I use both, I code on both, and I just feel from experience that the Mac is a better environment to code on. As I said, I'm not rendering, so the raw speed advantages of x86 are lost to the clunkiness of the UI.
Mac is better vs. PC again. Remember. PC isn't Windows. Besides, the faster speed can help by increasing productivity by making things seem extremely responsive.
My main machine is a DP867 with 2GB of RAM and a ATA133 RAID.
It is as responsive it can be.
Wow, you need that much to be productive under Mac OS X? Jeez.
Well, I run a Dual PIII 500 Server/occasional workstation with 1GB of PC100 Registered ECC Micron RAM, all name brand, unaltered stuff. It also runs only heavily tested commercial apps (no kazaa like crap).
It has a BSOD often enough to cause hair loss. Also, it has very destructive BSODs, meaning I get to use my 4 Win2k boot floppies...that's 3 hours of lost time.
Then you're doing something wrong. Try out Windows XP. Very destructive BSODs, like what? I've only had one about win32k.sys, but that was a memory corruption issue that I quickly solved. Windows XP is absolutely STABLE here.
Uh. Windows does have the support. I can play MP3s in Windows Media Player. I can write programs using the API to play MP3s, WMA, ASF, whatever. Maybe you mean to encode? Sure, Microsoft didn't want to pay Fraunhofer for the license, since they have their own audio format that works just fine.
Product activation. Just sends info on computer--no personal info. One click. No big deal. Microsoft is just protecting its profits losses. I've had my Athlon for a year, changed a lot, XP still runs fine and hasn't bitched.
Windows is just as insecure as any desktop OS. I've seen many OS X security updates. Desktop OSes are worst for security if you don't know how to fully utilize the OS security components (i.e. NT Security Model, UNIX security model).
If you want UNIX in Windows. Get cygwin.
.net is an entirely closed initiative. JScript is JavaScript crippled for IE only. C# is (from what I've heard) bad C++. I have tried to avoid .net for many reasons. I enjoy open standards. I like learning languages which are more likely to succeed in the broadest audience. I hate the whole .dll structure. COM/ASP services I have built in the past refused to scale well.
Outside of that, I see nothing wrong with .net, and some people will surely code for it, as long as its around.
Very wrong. Microsoft has a shared-source (other name for open source) .NET VM, compiler, etc. for BSD called ROTOR. It's just as good as the commercial counterpart for Windows, which is free. Hell, ROTOR works on Windows if you want to have ROTOR on Windows. Besides, Mono is GPL'ed open source implementation of Microsoft.NET.
JScript is not only for IE. It's used in scripting. JScript.NET isn't for IE anyways. It's a scripting language that can be compiled into .NET MSIL CLR.
C# is a ECMA standard. Java isn't. It isn't bad C++. It isn't even C++. It's Microsoft's version of SUN's Java with quite some differences from Java. C# isn't Java per se, but very similar. C# is actually a very elegant language. It just works.
Microsoft also encourages standards with XML Web Services. It's an open standard. There's a XML Web Service implementation for Java by SUN. It will play friendly with Microsoft.NET.
COM/ASP scalability is just as bad as PHP scalability. Microsoft.NET solves this with ASP.NET which is far much more powerful and scalable.
No what I'm saying is that Apple is a company that invest heavily in its industrial design, its UI development, etc. which gives it a high degree of style.
No arguments there. Then again, Microsoft has too, especially with Microsoft.NET.
The hardware of Apple's line, love it or hate it, is highly stylized. The OS has a lot more visual appeal, and more thoughful and intuitive layout. It's bloody UNIX my Granny sends me email from. Windows is available as delivered in Marshmellow or 98 Mode. It just looks bad...
Opinionated. I don't care if its bloody UNIX your granny sends emails from, she still doesn't know and therefore doesn't take full advantage of UNIX. Marshmellow? 98 Mode? Microsoft has dumped 9x and moved on with NT/2k/XP.
The ease of use argument is primarily focused opn productivity.
In Windows, when you empty the trash, an alert/confirmation box appears. You can then change focus to another window, burying the alert box, and freezing the OS, so you have to drill down through all the windows you have open to answer this alert before continuing.
Why not simply respond to the request of action immediately then move on. Since when would it freeze the OS? Never happened to me. You don't have to answer to continue. Windows NT/2k/XP uses protected memory, just like Mac OS X. In fact, Windows had it long before Mac OS X even came out the public.
Little annoying counter-intuitive time wasters abound.
Well... I haven't come across anything counter-intuitive or time wasting in XP. It's all opinonated.
I have both, I use both, I code on both, and I just feel from experience that the Mac is a better environment to code on. As I said, I'm not rendering, so the raw speed advantages of x86 are lost to the clunkiness of the UI.
Mac is better vs. PC again. Remember. PC isn't Windows. Besides, the faster speed can help by increasing productivity by making things seem extremely responsive.
My main machine is a DP867 with 2GB of RAM and a ATA133 RAID.
It is as responsive it can be.
Wow, you need that much to be productive under Mac OS X? Jeez.
Well, I run a Dual PIII 500 Server/occasional workstation with 1GB of PC100 Registered ECC Micron RAM, all name brand, unaltered stuff. It also runs only heavily tested commercial apps (no kazaa like crap).
It has a BSOD often enough to cause hair loss. Also, it has very destructive BSODs, meaning I get to use my 4 Win2k boot floppies...that's 3 hours of lost time.
Then you're doing something wrong. Try out Windows XP. Very destructive BSODs, like what? I've only had one about win32k.sys, but that was a memory corruption issue that I quickly solved. Windows XP is absolutely STABLE here.
bmsamson
Nov 8, 09:10 AM
I am mostly complaining between the mismatch between the 1.83 and the 2.0 model in terms of what 200$ buy (512MB RAM, Double Processor Cache, HD space, Superdrive, Processor Speed).
They should have lowered the price of the 1.83 entry model to reflect how cripled it is. I can not see anybody considering it as a realistic choice.
ok, i'll buy that, sorry i snapped. i had always been planning on the 2gig model, because it seemed like so much more for the money in even the first release. true, now that's even more the case, and indeed, what i'm buying
They should have lowered the price of the 1.83 entry model to reflect how cripled it is. I can not see anybody considering it as a realistic choice.
ok, i'll buy that, sorry i snapped. i had always been planning on the 2gig model, because it seemed like so much more for the money in even the first release. true, now that's even more the case, and indeed, what i'm buying
Chundles
Apr 11, 01:06 AM
Are you being sarcastic ?
Am I ever NOT? :D
Cheeky buggers those Adobe guys.
Am I ever NOT? :D
Cheeky buggers those Adobe guys.
bobsentell
May 4, 10:38 PM
If Apple wants the iPad to die a quick death, they will add 3-D.
spicyapple
Aug 7, 10:23 PM
This was a good WWDC. :D Quad Xeons... what I was hoping for since 2004!
coolmacguy
Mar 11, 03:50 PM
In regards to 9 to 5 post i saw someone comment that it was on macrumors hmepage
but when i looked it wasnt
one of my friends tweeted the headline about possible mbp rumors i guess before it went down
what happened?:confused:
It was judged to be a hoax, just like all the MBP rumors so far.
but when i looked it wasnt
one of my friends tweeted the headline about possible mbp rumors i guess before it went down
what happened?:confused:
It was judged to be a hoax, just like all the MBP rumors so far.
BRLawyer
Apr 12, 01:53 PM
Great news. The more manufacturing capacity, the better.
As discussed in other similar threads, this represents EXCELLENT news for both Apple and Brazil for the following reasons:
- This is gonna provide Apple with a MUCH stabler production site in terms of governance, workforce and overall environment, along with way lower shipping costs (after all, Brazil is the second-biggest Western democracy in the world, not an Asian sweatshop);
- Lower prices will finally allow Apple to tap into that gigantic market, with a majority of middle-class consumers as well as one of the most demanding upscale societies;
- Brazil is gonna benefit from positive spillovers in terms of a skilled workforce cluster and much lower costs for Apple devices in the country - Brazil is, today, the place where you'll find the MOST expensive Macs, iPods and iPhones in the world due to high import taxes;
But it's important to clarify what some people (especially US citizens) tend to think about Brazil:
- Brazil does NOT have cheap labor as in Asia - in fact, the country is already the world's 7th economy and among the MOST EXPENSIVE in the globe in terms of overall labor AND living costs (due to extensive social security obligations and a booming economy), especially in the rich area of S�o Paulo. This is definitely NOT a reason for Apple to have a plant there.
- And no, we DO NOT speak Spanish nor are we "Latinos" (defined by the brother from the North as those Latin Americans of hispanic background); in terms of gene pools, Brazil is, in fact, overwhelmingly European (between 65 and 80%, depending on the region).
And finally, PLEASE correct the family name of the Brazilian Minister of Technology: it is "Mercadante", not "Mercadente".
As discussed in other similar threads, this represents EXCELLENT news for both Apple and Brazil for the following reasons:
- This is gonna provide Apple with a MUCH stabler production site in terms of governance, workforce and overall environment, along with way lower shipping costs (after all, Brazil is the second-biggest Western democracy in the world, not an Asian sweatshop);
- Lower prices will finally allow Apple to tap into that gigantic market, with a majority of middle-class consumers as well as one of the most demanding upscale societies;
- Brazil is gonna benefit from positive spillovers in terms of a skilled workforce cluster and much lower costs for Apple devices in the country - Brazil is, today, the place where you'll find the MOST expensive Macs, iPods and iPhones in the world due to high import taxes;
But it's important to clarify what some people (especially US citizens) tend to think about Brazil:
- Brazil does NOT have cheap labor as in Asia - in fact, the country is already the world's 7th economy and among the MOST EXPENSIVE in the globe in terms of overall labor AND living costs (due to extensive social security obligations and a booming economy), especially in the rich area of S�o Paulo. This is definitely NOT a reason for Apple to have a plant there.
- And no, we DO NOT speak Spanish nor are we "Latinos" (defined by the brother from the North as those Latin Americans of hispanic background); in terms of gene pools, Brazil is, in fact, overwhelmingly European (between 65 and 80%, depending on the region).
And finally, PLEASE correct the family name of the Brazilian Minister of Technology: it is "Mercadante", not "Mercadente".
doberman211
Mar 19, 02:32 PM
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The old posts are hilarious & full of negative comments about how the iPod will flop. The advice for Apple to get out of the "gadget" business are very funny.
Well it's gotten so bad that the ipods now need an ipod app button! what happened!? i don't even like ios to begin with. and who are you to laugh at this? I'm not going back to threads from 4 years ago to satisfy your laughter thank you. leave the damn apps for the phones or the ipads. I can say im laughing at all the people talking about how "horrible" the click wheel is to use but i don't, i could laugh at all the ppl with the out with the old and in with the new personality but i don't. Capacity is priority and i LOVE the click wheel alright? sorry for quoting you directly but it was me who said that they should leave the gadget business but you seem to have forgotten i meant this for the iPod lineup. i mean look at what the nano has become. a little square. i hate it. it looks like it could be an iWatch.
The old posts are hilarious & full of negative comments about how the iPod will flop. The advice for Apple to get out of the "gadget" business are very funny.
Well it's gotten so bad that the ipods now need an ipod app button! what happened!? i don't even like ios to begin with. and who are you to laugh at this? I'm not going back to threads from 4 years ago to satisfy your laughter thank you. leave the damn apps for the phones or the ipads. I can say im laughing at all the people talking about how "horrible" the click wheel is to use but i don't, i could laugh at all the ppl with the out with the old and in with the new personality but i don't. Capacity is priority and i LOVE the click wheel alright? sorry for quoting you directly but it was me who said that they should leave the gadget business but you seem to have forgotten i meant this for the iPod lineup. i mean look at what the nano has become. a little square. i hate it. it looks like it could be an iWatch.
Mammoth
Oct 15, 05:15 PM
Yes, that is a very nerdy/geeky thing to do. "Zune"-ing music wirelessly is only something geeks can come up with, whereas Steve's suggestion of sharing earbuds is so much cooler and, dare I say it, sexually suggestive! ;)
As much as I would like that feature for file transfer, it is too geeky and I'm sure it will be too cumbersome for your average consumer to use.
As much as I would like that feature for file transfer, it is too geeky and I'm sure it will be too cumbersome for your average consumer to use.
Hls811
Nov 7, 10:04 AM
Exactly what I was saying. Apple is based in Cupertino, California. It's not even 8 am here yet. Usually stuff happens between 9am-12pm
When they announced the changes to the MBP C2D, it was done by now.. if you go back to the posting on MacRumors, (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061024083823.shtml) it was done at 8:38am EST (5:38AM Cupertino time).
Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
Tuesday October 24, 2006 08:38 AM EST
Today's not lookin' good for this announcement....
When they announced the changes to the MBP C2D, it was done by now.. if you go back to the posting on MacRumors, (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061024083823.shtml) it was done at 8:38am EST (5:38AM Cupertino time).
Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
Tuesday October 24, 2006 08:38 AM EST
Today's not lookin' good for this announcement....
HyperZboy
Nov 3, 10:17 AM
Until Adobe can get FLASH working properly on Macs, why the hell would I want it on my damn phone?
On Macs, FLASH causes Safari 4 to crash often, is slow and downright buggy.
Some sites work fine, others crash the browser, often a reboot is required to get a Flash site working after a crash. This is all completely unacceptable in my opinion.
If your teenager crashed one of your cars, why the hell would you immediately give him the keys to another one?
When Adobe fixes FLASH for Macs, then and ONLY THEN should Apple say, hey let's talk about the iPhone now.
Those should be Apple's terms, plain and simple.
On Macs, FLASH causes Safari 4 to crash often, is slow and downright buggy.
Some sites work fine, others crash the browser, often a reboot is required to get a Flash site working after a crash. This is all completely unacceptable in my opinion.
If your teenager crashed one of your cars, why the hell would you immediately give him the keys to another one?
When Adobe fixes FLASH for Macs, then and ONLY THEN should Apple say, hey let's talk about the iPhone now.
Those should be Apple's terms, plain and simple.
p0intblank
Aug 24, 03:14 PM
I don't think 17-inch PowerBooks are affected, so it looks like I am clear to go. :)
nagromme
Oct 15, 03:51 PM
I can't agree with Jobs on this one.
In this era of WTDs (wax-tramsitted diseases), there will be no sharing of my earbuds!
But if the person has a player, Zune or anything, then they also have their OWN earphones :)
In this era of WTDs (wax-tramsitted diseases), there will be no sharing of my earbuds!
But if the person has a player, Zune or anything, then they also have their OWN earphones :)
DJHonda84
Mar 19, 02:37 AM
Considering that a 160GB iPod Classic existed in it's really been more like 4 years since Apple has made meaningful progress with this line.
Perhaps if a Classic were to be produced with capacity superior to all its predecessors, it might motivate people to upgrade.
Perhaps if a Classic were to be produced with capacity superior to all its predecessors, it might motivate people to upgrade.
knightlie
Nov 4, 07:26 AM
Don't just blame Adobe...blame apple too. It's a code/OS issue. It's works perfectly on PCs.
Ahh, the armchair programmers are out again. Exactly what is a "code/OS issue"?
Apple is not responsible for Adobes crappy code. The fact that it "works perfectly" on PCs is completely irrelevant. I can write a program that works well on Windows and a program that works crappy on OSX - how is that Apples fault?
Why is Apple blocking Flash? This is one for the FCC! Same reason that Microsoft used to block Netscape. Apple wants websites to use Apple software and not Flash. FAIL! It's a violation of free markets! Here comes a Netscape-Microsoft lawsuit in the Supreme Court, except this time with Flash-Apple.
Actually, Apple wants websites to use open standards such as HTML, which is not Apples software. Flash is proprietary and is certainly not a free market. You should cut down on the caffeine.
Ahh, the armchair programmers are out again. Exactly what is a "code/OS issue"?
Apple is not responsible for Adobes crappy code. The fact that it "works perfectly" on PCs is completely irrelevant. I can write a program that works well on Windows and a program that works crappy on OSX - how is that Apples fault?
Why is Apple blocking Flash? This is one for the FCC! Same reason that Microsoft used to block Netscape. Apple wants websites to use Apple software and not Flash. FAIL! It's a violation of free markets! Here comes a Netscape-Microsoft lawsuit in the Supreme Court, except this time with Flash-Apple.
Actually, Apple wants websites to use open standards such as HTML, which is not Apples software. Flash is proprietary and is certainly not a free market. You should cut down on the caffeine.
millertime021
Mar 28, 08:18 PM
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I'm going to be pissed if there's no new iPhone.
However, I don't think Apple cares about me.
I'm going to be pissed if there's no new iPhone.
However, I don't think Apple cares about me.
dwwd
Oct 15, 10:16 PM
"Hi girl, catch this music im zunning to you..."
AppleinJapan
Sep 4, 06:48 AM
Ive waited and waited for a year to replace my old G3 imac so I hope that Apple release an Imac with a 23 inch screen ! It would be great for animators like myself.....I was thinking of buying a Samsung screen anyway so plz Apple release it
Loyalizer
Nov 8, 01:28 AM
I just want the graphics card to be more than a lame 64MB. Every other manufacturer on the planet has at least 128 in their notebooks shared or otherwise.
I would buy a Macbook in a heart beat if they did that. Hell... With the money I'll save from buying a Macbook pro I might get two one black and one white.
I would buy a Macbook in a heart beat if they did that. Hell... With the money I'll save from buying a Macbook pro I might get two one black and one white.
Deepdale
Sep 14, 04:31 AM
I just saw one at the apple store today... The nano's are still too small lol. Here's a toast to the mini, apple's best non-full size iPod ever.
This new generation nano represents an ocean of improvement over its predecessor, but I do agree that the mini stands alone as the best in the field. I will be getting one of these new nanos (likely green or blue) simply because the marketplace dictates such things. Personally, I never had a burning need for a small color screen ... the mini's monochrome screen was fine in every respect.
This new generation nano represents an ocean of improvement over its predecessor, but I do agree that the mini stands alone as the best in the field. I will be getting one of these new nanos (likely green or blue) simply because the marketplace dictates such things. Personally, I never had a burning need for a small color screen ... the mini's monochrome screen was fine in every respect.
citizenzen
Mar 29, 04:40 PM
What level of military interventions should the US take in the Republic of Congo?
And to look at it in a slightly different way ...
Would it have helped the United States to have some country intervene and determine the outcome in our civil war?
And to look at it in a slightly different way ...
Would it have helped the United States to have some country intervene and determine the outcome in our civil war?
Nipsy
Oct 14, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by buffsldr
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[Attack supporters of your fellow debater with personal insults here]
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[Attack supporters of your fellow debater with personal insults here]
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